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  • Oct. 3rd, 2008 at 3:59 PM
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# of queries read this week: 209
# of partials/manuscripts requested: 1
genre of partials/manuscripts requested: fantasy (alternate history)


We interupt our regular broadcast to bring you this important announcement from the war-torn front.

Last week, combatants were randomly surveyed to discover why they wanted to put themselves at risk out in the field (i.e. become published). Many claimed that they felt their writing would not be fully realized until it was shared with others and that a work was not complete until it had been read. Therefore, the need to become not just a writer but a published author. They vowed not to be put off by the fact that the odds may be stacked against them. Brave, brave fighters. My sincere respect to each and every one.

However, given those same odds, it is possible, even likely, that many of those who make the attempt will not succeed, despite persistence and faith (perhaps even despite talent). So, today, we ask our worthy correspondents.... if you could have your future told and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you would never be published*, what would you do? And for those of you who have been published at least once, if you knew your work would never again gain a contract, what would you do?

We now return you to our regular programming.

*For the purposes of this transmission, self-publishing is exempt from the question.

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[info]doortoriver wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:06 pm (UTC)
What a fascinating and frightening question!

You know... I don't think I COULD stop writing. I do know what I'd do; I'd just end up posting it all online, same as I used to with fanfictionother non-derivative works. If I couldn't do that, then I'd probably just end up showing it to my loved ones...

And I'd probably go back to get my Master's degree in music instead of putting that aside to write. But I wouldn't stop writing.
[info]aliettedb wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:09 pm (UTC)
I'd probably go on writing and share it with friends. It's kind of scary to realise that even this wouldn't stop me...
[info]mizkit wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:10 pm (UTC)
What an appalling question. O.O

I'm sure I'd continue to write. I'm also pretty sure I wouldn't do it at the *rate* I have been, but I can't actually imagine ceasing to write.

'course, I'd have to get a *job*... :)
(Anonymous) wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:13 pm (UTC)
never published?
Hmm, it's kind of like that "If a tree falls in the forest" thing. If a writer writes a novel and no one ever reads it, does it really exist? I'd probably continue to write, after several years of severe depression, and hopefully friends and family would get some enjoyment out of it, but I think it would totally crush me.

Lisa Iriarte
[info]author_guy wrote:
Oct. 6th, 2008 02:07 pm (UTC)
Re: never published?
Of course it would exist. You read it, didn't you?
[info]dmoonfire wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:13 pm (UTC)
Keep writing. While getting published is a wonderful goal, the path getting there is just as important as reaching that point. There are times when I think I'm in the secondary category (been published once, never again), but I keep writing and keep trying simply because it makes me a better person, I always have a chance, and I'm not really good at that entire destiny thing. Like my wife, telling me I can never do something like that is a good way of making sure I keep trying.

... it does mean I have a lot of rejections though. :)
[info]will_couvillier wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:21 pm (UTC)
Write on! And end up doing like I did with short stories -- take a decade break to learn the craft of the form, then try again.

I can thank MZB for my 8y SS break, BTW.
[info]shalanar wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:22 pm (UTC)
Hmmm...(having never been published in anything other than a school paper or two) I would still write. Whether I get published or not, I enjoy writing. So, if I knew I had no shot, nothing would change, except that I'd stop submitting my work.
[info]lotuseyes wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:35 pm (UTC)
i might actually let my family read some of my stuff XD

at the moment I'm not because if they laugh at me, or worse pity my attempts, I'll never get the courage up to submit anything ever, I'm waiting till after I can say 'hey I got a contract suck it!' and let them laugh at me then.

If I had no chance? let'em laugh won't matter anyhow :D
[info]eclectic_writer wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:35 pm (UTC)
Your question troubled me so much I had to post a whole topic over on my own journal. Final say: I just don't know. As much as I love writing, creating and all the art inherent in the endeavor, to "know" that I'd never be "good enough" for public consumption, that my words would never reach an audience other than myself, would be so heartbreaking. I'm human, I crave attention. Perhaps that's a hallmark of low self-esteem, but I want praise for what I do, even though the thought of putting it out for all to see scares the living daylights out of me.
[info]osl wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:41 pm (UTC)
if you could have your future told and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you would never be published*, what would you do?

Become a plumber.
[info]susanw wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
I would still write, because the stories would still be in my head wanting to get out. I'd probably look at self-publishing or just putting my work up on my website.

My focus would probably change somewhat. I wouldn't spend so much time going to conferences and looking for opportunities to network and meet publishing professionals. I'd step back and look at all my life choices, because right now so much of my energy goes into maximizing my writing time and doing whatever I can to increase my odds of getting published. But I wouldn't stop writing, because I feel like it's what I was meant to do.
[info]britmandelo wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:44 pm (UTC)
I'd be damned depressed, but it wouldn't stop me from writing. There are plenty of venues for getting work out there even if it isn't published; the internet can provide a decent forum to post original works on for free.

And there's always the degree. Teaching, all that jazz.
[info]lunalelle wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:54 pm (UTC)
I agree with doortoriver. What a frightening question!

For me, sending out my stories and trying to get published is as much a part of being a writer as the writing part. If I were to know without a doubt that I would never get published again... that would seriously bum me out. A whole aspect of me as a person would be ripped apart by rabid wolves and left for the maggots before being thrown into a tub of acid.

If the opportunity to see my definite future came along, I've always said that I wouldn't look.

I would probably not stop writing, but some of the fire would be out of it. Strangely enough, I don't need to be published. If my one short story is all that ever gets selected by an editor, then I'd still be okay. Because just the act of sending out my stuff and getting rejected is still being a writer. It's something to aim for. Writing is no fun unless it's shared, bonus if that sharing makes you a little money.
[info]nounsandverbs wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
I'd still write. I do it for the joy of living in my characters' world. It's fun.
[info]tedesson wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
I'd continue to create, but I'd significantly alter my imaginary picture of my ideal reader to be someone smarter than me. I suspect that would then become a self-fulfilling prophecy, but much more personally satisfying.
[info]rreugen wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 09:04 pm (UTC)
If I knew I would never get published...

I would try doing something else that I can enjoy and perform in a competent manner. I'll keep my stories in my head, they look good and I don't have to waste time writing them, and I'll get on with my life.
[info]barbarienne wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 09:05 pm (UTC)
I am not one of those who can't stop writing. I certainly can, and often do so for very long periods of time, from months to a couple of years.

If you had asked this question a decade ago, I'm sure I would have answered, "I'll write anyway." Now, I'm not so sure. I think I would continue to write the things I really, really enjoy.

I am in the awkward position I call "on the brink," which is to say I certainly write publishable quality work, and I have an agent (yes, a real agent). And yet as the first novel goes unsold, I feel pressure to write the second (unrelated) one. It isn't fun. I feel as if I ought to be progressing, but the next step of "progress" is the hardest one yet: getting an editor to buy my novel.

I rather miss the days when I didn't care, and all I had was hope and potential. If I knew for certain I would never be published, I can't decide if it would make me hang my guns up for good, or if it would be incredibly freeing. I suspect "freeing."

At the very least, I would try to remember how it felt when I was a kid, and I wrote without any awareness that people are read. The only audience I ever had was myself. That's a very hard mindspace to hold onto nowadays. I write slowly, and that makes it too easy to start speculating about which market, what editor, what other works does it compare to?
(Anonymous) wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 09:09 pm (UTC)
Being Published
I have watched in amazement as my excellent university here receives over 400 applications for six places in a MFA program each year. Fools! What can they do with it besides try to find a place teaching more of the deluded? If someone really has that kind of money to waste, and wants to spend several years being "graded" on their writing, no harm done, but now I find that agents are also demanding to know "where you learned to write?"
Um...um..how about life? How about reading and learning what makes great writing effective? Don't need to shell out tens of thousands of dollars to do that!What a scam. Keep those classrooms filled.
So. do you pay more attention to a submission if someone claims a degree, or does the work stand on its own?
Could you tell us what you think the odds are of being published for any new writer these days, assuming one is educated and competent? Thank you for asking the question. I would keep writing because I've already been published a great deal, but not in book-length work.And between that and my 4.0 in English Lit, I should have a good chance of being allowed into an MFA program. And then what? Someone would hire me as a " novelist " ? Jesus. Feel better now. Thank you.
[info]crcook wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 09:10 pm (UTC)
The only way I can write anymore is to believe I never will get published. :) The hope and the waiting and the rejections and the try, try again end up paralyzing me. Once I let go of hoping I'll get published, I want to write. THen I get hopeful again, send out queries, wait, wait, get angsty, lose hope, stop writing, give up the dream, then want to write again.

Could make an interesting psychiatric case study...
[info]melissajm wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 09:14 pm (UTC)
I suspect I'd keep writing, but at an even slower rate than I do now.
[info]kristine_smith wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 09:17 pm (UTC)
And for those of you who have been published at least once, if you knew your work would never again gain a contract, what would you do?

I would likely stop writing. For me, being read is the larger part of the point. And while I could simply write stuff and self-pub or post online, I would be missing that outside editorial feedback that I know I need.
[info]suricattus wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 09:18 pm (UTC)
And for those of you who have been published at least once, if you knew your work would never again gain a contract, what would you do?


End up living in your basement/wine cellar. And make you read everything and try to sell it anyway,'cause the fortune-teller might have been wrong.... *goes back to work, now even more neurotic than usual*
[info]neutronjockey wrote:
Oct. 4th, 2008 03:09 am (UTC)
Nom de plume! Nom de plume! Nom de plume!
[info]aquitane wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 09:19 pm (UTC)
Oh, good question. I want to write, but I want to write *well*, and one way to know if you're writing well, is if someone pays for it. I agree with rreugen, above...if I knew for a FACT that I would never be good enough (as opposed to now, when I only THINK I'm not good enough), I'd probably go looking for something else where I could give something of value with that time, and leave my stories in my head.
[info]starbrusttiger wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 09:25 pm (UTC)
I think the answer to your question all depends on worldview and faith.

I believe completely that if I am meant to be published and if God wants that for me, then no one can take it away. If I am not meant to have it, then there is something better for me out there. Either way, all is well with the world and I am content.

However, I have a peace about it, but I also have a strong faith that I was born to be a writer, and a published writer I will be. I don't believe God gives anyone a vision if it is impossible.
[info]nattiecakes wrote:
Oct. 3rd, 2008 09:34 pm (UTC)
I would still write anyway, and put it online.
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